tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post5667111433063117293..comments2023-10-01T16:53:17.274+01:00Comments on Cicero's Songs: Time for some tough talkingCicerohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02090838836212624633noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-84159714753819936952009-12-17T12:25:50.454+00:002009-12-17T12:25:50.454+00:00Charlotte Gore has been the source of many ideas r...Charlotte Gore has been the source of many ideas recently that I've felt were mushy, sloppy and incoherent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-81107337193462549252009-12-10T12:57:56.982+00:002009-12-10T12:57:56.982+00:00I endorse this completely. My impression is that y...I endorse this completely. My impression is that you will generally good arguments and clear thinking from individuals - even some of those I tend to disagree with - but on the floor of the party conference there is an often overwhelming culture of vague do-goodery.<br /><br />An issue gets on the agenda and we talk about it, and promise to "do something" about it, to show we care (which we do). The detail could easily be taken verbatim from some pressure group, and may be very good, or may be a waste of a back of a fag packet. But there is always a presumption of intervention.Joe Ottenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18380362092159905533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-7883786966868222322009-12-09T22:21:05.529+00:002009-12-09T22:21:05.529+00:00Just to say: "Well said, Cicero".Just to say: "Well said, Cicero".Andy Cookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14827254192797927573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-79163489369957270232009-12-09T14:14:55.348+00:002009-12-09T14:14:55.348+00:00I did also say I agree with you on the Economy an...I did also say I agree with you on the Economy and that is the most important issueNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-91722978206078488362009-12-09T12:08:17.981+00:002009-12-09T12:08:17.981+00:00You wrote an article to stop the Lib Dems becoming...You wrote an article to stop the Lib Dems becoming like other parties, Canute?<br /><br />You not think that a trifle narcissistic?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-66062949434073879152009-12-09T07:21:07.440+00:002009-12-09T07:21:07.440+00:00Ewan: the short answer is yes, and I think you are...Ewan: the short answer is yes, and I think you are winning the argument.<br /><br />Newmania: as always, I think you see what you want to see, not what actually is. It is, however, precisely to prevent the Lib Dems becoming what you thnk it already is that I have written this piece.Cicerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02090838836212624633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-40282926505088379502009-12-09T00:04:13.276+00:002009-12-09T00:04:13.276+00:00It was not an accident that the average level of e...It was not an accident that the average level of education of Liberal Democrats was above the other two parties- <br /><br />The average level of education in the Conservative Party is a close second and the average level of education in the BNP is above that of the Labour Party..Make of that what you will.I am not a great respecter of class advantage personally .<br />It seems to me the only Gladstonian Liberal administration was Saint Thatchers while the Liberals have been to the left of New Labour when not in one of four pacts .<br /><br />I would not get over excited by a hung Parliament. This will be a bitter and nasty GE but if there is one thing the country can unite on it is that we do not want the Liberals bossing us around by some back room deal of the Lisbon type .<br /><br />There are times whe I wonder if you have arrived from another planet<br />"do-gooding drivel, which apes the sanctimoniousness of the worst of the politically correct brigade."<br /><br />That is the Liberal Party .Face up to some facts pleeeze.On the economy I entirely agree ,you are always a voice of sanity on , what is after all the most important problem that faces usNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-28853033350098248952009-12-08T23:39:09.953+00:002009-12-08T23:39:09.953+00:00rigorous evenrigorous evenEwan Hoylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00007206200639738854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-56792653028696961502009-12-08T23:37:22.431+00:002009-12-08T23:37:22.431+00:00Do you think the work of Liberal Democrats for Dru...Do you think the work of Liberal Democrats for Drug Policy Reform www.lddpr.org.uk might fit into your vision of a better party? It's certainly not populist, but I like to think it's intellectually vigorous.Ewan Hoylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00007206200639738854noreply@blogger.com