tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post116367404012608065..comments2023-10-01T16:53:17.274+01:00Comments on Cicero's Songs: Better off in!Cicerohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02090838836212624633noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-1164142355092695512006-11-21T20:52:00.000+00:002006-11-21T20:52:00.000+00:00It's certainly true that most EU regulations get l...It's certainly true that most EU regulations get lead plated when they pass through whitehall. But where we not in the EU there would not be this stream of regulation, that is outside democratic oversight, to be lead plated.chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11744649904388176606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-1163811895858666502006-11-18T01:04:00.000+00:002006-11-18T01:04:00.000+00:00Dear Marcus,I do hope you remind us (i'm sure Mr. ...Dear Marcus,<BR/><BR/>I do hope you remind us (i'm sure Mr. Dale will) of this promising debate, nearer the time.<BR/><BR/>And as I recall, 24 wrongs does not necessarily make a right.Etzel Panglosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03406597168530012673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-1163776869507962332006-11-17T15:21:00.000+00:002006-11-17T15:21:00.000+00:00Sure, but if 24 countries don't do it that way and...Sure, but if 24 countries don't do it that way and 1 does, then who is doing it right, and who wrong?Cicerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02090838836212624633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-1163776657463926752006-11-17T15:17:00.000+00:002006-11-17T15:17:00.000+00:00It's not just civil servants. Our courts also seem...It's not just civil servants. Our courts also seem to adopt much stricter interpretations of EU laws and regulations than the rest of Europe (eg HRA). You suggest we are over interpreting but I'm often left feeling that we’re the only ones playing by the rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-1163761827717689912006-11-17T11:10:00.000+00:002006-11-17T11:10:00.000+00:00RK- while I agree that the system in the EU is fla...RK- while I agree that the system in the EU is flawed, the evidence is strong that British civil servants have tended to a) gold plate EU guidelines and b)to interpret the directives in the most restrictive way. A good example is the question of hygine at abbatoirs. In the UK, but nowhere else, the directive as intepreted has reduced the options of abbatoirs to a small number of very large facilities- which is no benefit to animal welfare.Cicerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02090838836212624633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-1163759058104506832006-11-17T10:24:00.000+00:002006-11-17T10:24:00.000+00:00You advocate a low regulatory burden (and I agree)...You advocate a low regulatory burden (and I agree) but the EU produces red tape at an alarming rate. As long as this burden keeps increasing there will be a number of people who see the price as higher than the benefits, and with some justification. The EU abolitionists may be taking this logic too far but it’s a bit of a patronising position to just suggest stupidity and hypocrisy in your opponents, it’s also a position that will not convince many of them to join your cause. If you want to remove support for this position then you need to focus on why they consider the costs so high. A repeal act for Brussels like the one you advocated for Westminster would be a good place to start. Too often the LibDems look like enthusiastic supporters of Europe and the perception is you therefore approve of all the pages and pages of rules and regulations flowing from it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-1163683659591404152006-11-16T13:27:00.000+00:002006-11-16T13:27:00.000+00:00Dr. Pangloss- I agree. The Bruges Group does not- ...Dr. Pangloss- I agree. The Bruges Group does not- and neither do the many Conservatives who belong to the Bruges GroupCicerohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02090838836212624633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-1163680320977718512006-11-16T12:32:00.000+00:002006-11-16T12:32:00.000+00:00We will not be withdrawing from the EU when the To...We will not be withdrawing from the EU when the Tories win the next election. It's a no brainer and you know it.Etzel Panglosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03406597168530012673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15037609.post-1163676473623583842006-11-16T11:27:00.000+00:002006-11-16T11:27:00.000+00:00As you know this advert is hosted by MessageSpace....As you know this advert is hosted by MessageSpace. Just because I carry an advert for the Bruges Group does not imply support for it. I also carry adverts for Friends of the Earth and War on Want on the same basis.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.com